The Economist gets it right. Only complete destruction by atomic bombs could cause greater damage to Europe. And when they say it's a strategic problem requiring a strategic response, they're right.
As a scientist with graduate degrees in both biology and geology, I can agree that questioning science is a needed activity, but misinterpreting scientific data and bending the facts to fit an agenda based on religious beliefs is not a great way to make public policy. Especially in a nation which holds to FREEDOM of religion,and includes many types of believers and nonbelievers
This is a perfect ex. of misinformation; what don't you understand about numerous genetic outcomes. Did the bible talk about X & Y chromosomes? WHERE ?
I’m saying climate science and trans ideology both share the fact that they only exist because of left wing sheep-like groupthink. Climate science wills an assumption into existence. Trans ‘science’ wills an unnatural human condition into existence.
Is it reasonable to assume that all world leaders and governments know this information? That China, Russia, Australia, the EU and the USA know this? And that the tech bros know this? If yes, then their racial supremacy agendas, genocide-by-design economics, carbon emissions free-for-all fits into a racial supremacy-driven land grab for survival?
What does this do to equatorial flora and fauna? Does any region allow survival of species-dense ecosystems? Or does this become a global paring down?
What are the carbon-sequestering techniques that can operate at scale?
USA maga-dominated government knows this is happening - why would they promote climate denial and complete abandonment of efforts to reverse carbon-emissions? For the energy-land grab plus short term monetary gains?
So confusing. They know it’s happening. And that the data are factual. Denial is cheaper? Are they really that shortsighted? Holy moly.
If they think that white Europeans are the Chosen People, then why aren't they realizing that it's EUROPE which will be destroyed! Does that not matter to white supremacists??
Part of the supremacy doctrine is that they are infallible, and that nothing can go wrong.
And the WCN don’t believe in science. They believe climate science is a hoax. So foresight is not an option for them. Threatens the supremacy ideology.
And then there are the accelerationists among the WCN - who want the biblical end times to come sooner so that Jesus comes back.
I wish I were joking, but they are not joking. Also, their belief in Manifest Destiny means that WCN in the US is divinely ordained goal. And they are nationalists - Europeans are foreigners to most of them. Have you seen the clip of MTG telling a British journalist to go home? They do not connect with Europe. Their grandiosity narrative is Jesus-chosen people-America.
White people count to white supremacist. As my brother, who is in that movement, tells me, "Russia is that last country of white people." So that group of people certainly count all "white people" as important. Love your comment: "foresight is not an option for them"! My highly intelligent (IQ 155, also autistic) brother insists, "climate change is a hoax." How ANYONE with an intellect can honestly believe this is way beyond my comprehension. You are certainly on target with the idiots who welcome the Apocalypse. Of course, all of the Jews have to go to Israel for that to happen. When It comes, they will be taken, as a group, straight to Heaven. As for the rest of us? The Four Horsemen will appear and life on earth will become a hell. (It already is for billions.)
This is really scary stuff. Climate change is the biggest, most important issue facing the planet right now and Dirtbag Donnie thinks it’s a hoax. Trump is a God damn fool.
A warmer CO2 rich atmosphere is a god send for all life on earth. You have been indoctrinated into a doomsday cult. 14,000 years ago half of North America, Europe, and Asia was buried under mile thick ice sheets. Look at how much life has flourished as the ice receded. Life will continue to benefit as the ice sheets decline.
For every action there is a reaction. What caused the thick ice sheets?
As having lived well past a half century, there is a change cased by something. In elementary school,I can still visualize the pictures in our little science book, March is windy symbolizedby a kite, April showers(rain) bring May flowers. In my area, it has stepped down by a mouth. Spring bulbs bloomed in April but now daffodils will bloom in Feb. My fruit trees have bloomed early from unseasonly warm weather only to destroyed by frost later. This has happened regularly on a yearly basis. Growing up with no AC, there were a few sparatic weeks of high nineties heat but nothing like today's record breaking heatwaves.
So you are saying, no relationship between the air quality of today with manufacturering of plastic replacing glass and millions more cars and fossil fuel farm equipment, AC emissions, and thousands of satellite launches among other man made apparatus has had no effect on our atmospheric patterns causing any climate change?
You may not know this but plants don't bloom by temp. They bloom by day length. Late frosts are dangerous, which is why warmer temps are actually beneficial and will limit crop damage and improve productivity. Air quality is much different than CO2 (currently 0.042% of the atmosphere). We should focus on true pollutants in our air, land, and water. This focus on climate sucks all the air out of the room so to speak.
Horticulture is not your wheel house. I grow up eating what we grew and has a past of family farmers. You can debate C02 but not the other. In the Brassica family, heat is the enemy. The time-line between cool and warm affects the outcome of a successful crop.
We won’t be here much longer if we don’t do something about climate change fast. We did do something about the ozone layer. Climate change is the biggest problem facing the planet. It is not bs or a hoax. You sound like Dirtbag Donnie with your comment.
More fear porn… there is a whole body of evidence that refutes these assertions. Our eco systems is extremely complex and self correcting. Though we’re in a cooling phase it has nothing to do with AGW. Ok haters begin the attacks 🖕
Yeah I figured someone was going to ask this. If you do a search, there on YouTube for example there are several videos that address this issue…and they are from reputable sources. If I’m so inclined I’ll post some links.
No it’s an expedient way to get information to low IQ dolts like yourself who can’t sit and read actual studies/text books/science…and actually fathom what you’re reading.
If I had a nickel for every person denying global warming as "bad science" while knowing absolutely nothing about science I could afford to build my own Doomsday bunker.
Then illuminate us with your knowledge… I’d be interested in your hackneyed arguments. Btw you do realize that none of the so called predictions has come true.
First, I'm not doing your homework for you (especially not to have you then argue about it). Second, one of the differences between us is that when the vast majority of scientific experts concur on an issue within their field I defer to their expertise, whereas you call it "bad science" and denigrate argument to the contrary in advance. Not going to waste my time further with you.
There's a lot of ways things go sideways on this earth. For example, in 55 million years ago, the oceans warmed and the cathrates, lattice-llike caps on methane deposits on the ocean floor, failed and an outgassing killed 90% of all species on earth. ... Then there's the "jolt" at 465,000 years ago that coincides with a HUGE upsurge of new species. What we know from ice cores is that ice cores show a massive upsurge in CO2 in the atmosphere immediately before the onset of the last ice age. Nobody knows why. You're right, it wasn't human, but the incitement of CO2 is obvious.
There is huge meteor strike evidence that affected climate change by changing the atmosphere on earth. Humans are changing the atmosphere through large amounts of polutting emissions as evidenced during covid look down. In Asian, densely populationed cities where mask had to be worn before covid, the mountains were invisible by a bluish fog. The cities on lockdown had clear skies and mountains visible for the first time in decades. Same with LA in San Bernadeno area. You could visible see and feel the effect on eyes and nose before stronger car emission restrictions were passed for the state.
The tracking of temperature and rainfall for over a century, shows changes year after year, that were once in a year in a decade of change.
It's the anthropocene. Processes that were triggered naturally before (and Nature does NOT care about you) can now -- and often are now -- tripped by humans dumping everything from plastic to methane to carbon anywhere they like. We are trashy. That's a problem.
The natural consequence of this condition will be a much better outcome for all of humanity than the impending new world order led by the newly minted fascist U.S. gov along with current authoritarian regimes Chia and russia… ( small r intended😀)…
The Saltstraumen Maelstrom shows up in literature, too! It's the maelstrom of Edgar Allen Poe's 'A Descent Into the Maelstrom'! Seriously, the idea of AMOC shutting down is seriously scary.
You nutters have been churning out this kind of garbage for approximately 40 years, and none of it has come to pass.
Your climate alarmism pseudo religion is the continuation of the Puritanical 'end of the world is nigh' mindset in this secular age.
Your insane Net Zero project will more likely cause the collapse of the advanced civilisation that has existed in Europe since the Industrial Revolution. You are fools!!
“Cult?” You actually invoke the word “cult” in your remark? Startling, really, considering your MAGA-like rejoinder to an article on the science of global climate change.
What about this Woods Hole article that says the AMOC has not weakened in the last 60 years (contrary to earlier studies that suggested it was approaching collapse)?
"The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) has not slowed down since the mid-20th century based on the North Atlantic air-sea heat fluxes over that time.
This finding contrasts with studies that have estimated a decline in the AMOC, likely because previous studies rely on sea surface temperature measurements to understand how the AMOC has changed. However, sea surface temperature is not a reliable way to reconstruct the AMOC, according to the authors.
Although the AMOC has not declined yet, scientists agree that the Atlantic overturning will slow in the future—but whether the system can collapse entirely and when this collapse would happen is still up for debate. Such a scenario would have catastrophic consequences globally."
In an economy, nothing gets done unless money moves. So if action on climate happens, someone must work for pay. Where can that money come from? Do you think corporations will see this as profitable? Not compared to the much quicker profit from making tons of cheap junk to service people’s pleasure addictions. Will governments do it? Not very effectively, but some will at least pretend to. And you know where their money has to come from. TAXES. (If they just print it, they devalue the money into hyperinflation.)
So the choice is, get the money from somewhere, or sit back and die with all your toys around you.
Stan, I'm a veteran of environmental disasters since the 70s: global freezing, overpopulation, mass starvation, global warming, melting ice caps, peak oil, “climate change,” rising sea levels, covid’s Winter Death, wasteful wind/solar spending and now this, The Atlantic Vortex of Cthulhu. Every last hoax meant higher taxes which never go away and fewer freedoms.
So much vitriol from a guy who no longer has to pay tax on tips and no longer has to suffer the indignity of illegals picking his fruit and vegetables, doing all the other jobs he doesn't want to do, and paying taxes on their non-tip wages. And prices are down, too, everyone is saying. Are we great again yet?
It is a simple matter of time. All of this is over lifetimes of time up to thousands of years. And every body posting will be dead.
Like Fuken eh what joke. Doom and gloom on steroids with politics to boot. Reading dumb and dumber comments. What if nobody knows? What predictions have come true? None I’m aware. Live in your fear, your choice…
Reading your post saddens me; I think and feel similarly. My hope is centered around the planet and its creatures surviving with enough resources to eventually thrive again. Humans, being the world’s worst species, must go, must destroy themselves, the sooner the better.
But, but we’re so intellectual. We can’t even get along on a single block, much less a neighborhood. I once believed “thou shall not kill” meant something. It’s like we are desensitized as this being normal. Upside down world. Barnum clown show everywhere. The new normal. Do you fit in? I don’t…minding my own business.
What a terrible time to have a science denier as our President.
This is WHY you have a science-denier as President! Scared ppl prefer to run and hide rather than face and solve problems.
It’s exactly for this reason.
Pieces of crap humans with trust funds do not care about the future.
All their decisions are based on whether their trust funds will earn more money from destruction
For what it’s worth, folks, questioning scientific information and theories is an essential part of the scientific process.
DENYING science is just self-delusion and fear of those things you don’t understand or can’t control.
As a scientist with graduate degrees in both biology and geology, I can agree that questioning science is a needed activity, but misinterpreting scientific data and bending the facts to fit an agenda based on religious beliefs is not a great way to make public policy. Especially in a nation which holds to FREEDOM of religion,and includes many types of believers and nonbelievers
Science is nothing more than a tool. Have you ever questioned a hammer or a screwdriver?
I would certainly question my hammer or screwdriver if they were parroting deep state commie loser ideology.
MAGAts hate scientific data.
Science deniers don't produce data, they produce misinformation.
No such thing! Bad info is bad because it is false!
Agree about your 2nd sentence. The last one is a hypothesis. Please use scientific methods to prove.
I bet you think dudes can be ladies as well don’t you you loon
This is a perfect ex. of misinformation; what don't you understand about numerous genetic outcomes. Did the bible talk about X & Y chromosomes? WHERE ?
This is only made possible by a perversion of modern medical science - nothing to do with the bible
So, you're blaming Watson & Crick?
I’m saying climate science and trans ideology both share the fact that they only exist because of left wing sheep-like groupthink. Climate science wills an assumption into existence. Trans ‘science’ wills an unnatural human condition into existence.
What the heck are you blathering about?!?!
Horrifying!
Is it reasonable to assume that all world leaders and governments know this information? That China, Russia, Australia, the EU and the USA know this? And that the tech bros know this? If yes, then their racial supremacy agendas, genocide-by-design economics, carbon emissions free-for-all fits into a racial supremacy-driven land grab for survival?
What does this do to equatorial flora and fauna? Does any region allow survival of species-dense ecosystems? Or does this become a global paring down?
What are the carbon-sequestering techniques that can operate at scale?
USA maga-dominated government knows this is happening - why would they promote climate denial and complete abandonment of efforts to reverse carbon-emissions? For the energy-land grab plus short term monetary gains?
So confusing. They know it’s happening. And that the data are factual. Denial is cheaper? Are they really that shortsighted? Holy moly.
If they think that white Europeans are the Chosen People, then why aren't they realizing that it's EUROPE which will be destroyed! Does that not matter to white supremacists??
Part of the supremacy doctrine is that they are infallible, and that nothing can go wrong.
And the WCN don’t believe in science. They believe climate science is a hoax. So foresight is not an option for them. Threatens the supremacy ideology.
And then there are the accelerationists among the WCN - who want the biblical end times to come sooner so that Jesus comes back.
I wish I were joking, but they are not joking. Also, their belief in Manifest Destiny means that WCN in the US is divinely ordained goal. And they are nationalists - Europeans are foreigners to most of them. Have you seen the clip of MTG telling a British journalist to go home? They do not connect with Europe. Their grandiosity narrative is Jesus-chosen people-America.
White people count to white supremacist. As my brother, who is in that movement, tells me, "Russia is that last country of white people." So that group of people certainly count all "white people" as important. Love your comment: "foresight is not an option for them"! My highly intelligent (IQ 155, also autistic) brother insists, "climate change is a hoax." How ANYONE with an intellect can honestly believe this is way beyond my comprehension. You are certainly on target with the idiots who welcome the Apocalypse. Of course, all of the Jews have to go to Israel for that to happen. When It comes, they will be taken, as a group, straight to Heaven. As for the rest of us? The Four Horsemen will appear and life on earth will become a hell. (It already is for billions.)
This is really scary stuff. Climate change is the biggest, most important issue facing the planet right now and Dirtbag Donnie thinks it’s a hoax. Trump is a God damn fool.
Trump is doing Satan's work. God gave us free will. It is obvious whose bidding he Trump chose. He is Satan's damned fool.
A warmer CO2 rich atmosphere is a god send for all life on earth. You have been indoctrinated into a doomsday cult. 14,000 years ago half of North America, Europe, and Asia was buried under mile thick ice sheets. Look at how much life has flourished as the ice receded. Life will continue to benefit as the ice sheets decline.
Oh, hi, Mr. Dunning-Kruger! We were expecting you!
Did you read the article before commenting, by any chance?
For every action there is a reaction. What caused the thick ice sheets?
As having lived well past a half century, there is a change cased by something. In elementary school,I can still visualize the pictures in our little science book, March is windy symbolizedby a kite, April showers(rain) bring May flowers. In my area, it has stepped down by a mouth. Spring bulbs bloomed in April but now daffodils will bloom in Feb. My fruit trees have bloomed early from unseasonly warm weather only to destroyed by frost later. This has happened regularly on a yearly basis. Growing up with no AC, there were a few sparatic weeks of high nineties heat but nothing like today's record breaking heatwaves.
So you are saying, no relationship between the air quality of today with manufacturering of plastic replacing glass and millions more cars and fossil fuel farm equipment, AC emissions, and thousands of satellite launches among other man made apparatus has had no effect on our atmospheric patterns causing any climate change?
You may not know this but plants don't bloom by temp. They bloom by day length. Late frosts are dangerous, which is why warmer temps are actually beneficial and will limit crop damage and improve productivity. Air quality is much different than CO2 (currently 0.042% of the atmosphere). We should focus on true pollutants in our air, land, and water. This focus on climate sucks all the air out of the room so to speak.
Horticulture is not your wheel house. I grow up eating what we grew and has a past of family farmers. You can debate C02 but not the other. In the Brassica family, heat is the enemy. The time-line between cool and warm affects the outcome of a successful crop.
Just plant your broccoli earlier in the spring and later in the fall. Longer growing seasons aren't a bad thing!
You can’t grow anything if the land is under a mile thick sheet of ice.
No, it really isn’t
How so?
Climate change is bs. Remember the ozone layer? We are all still here…
We won’t be here much longer if we don’t do something about climate change fast. We did do something about the ozone layer. Climate change is the biggest problem facing the planet. It is not bs or a hoax. You sound like Dirtbag Donnie with your comment.
Oh do bore off and go live in a cave with your hysterical fellow travellers
Why don’t you move to a very low lying area. That way when the oceans come roaring in you will be one of the first to die.
#WinterIsComing #GrandSolarMinimum
The more greenhouse gases we can get up there the better for life.
And we’re in the hands of a ‘leader’ and his posse of climate denying doofuses.
I won’t be sleeping well tonight.
More fear porn… there is a whole body of evidence that refutes these assertions. Our eco systems is extremely complex and self correcting. Though we’re in a cooling phase it has nothing to do with AGW. Ok haters begin the attacks 🖕
“Whole body of evidence”? Chapter and verse please.
Yeah I figured someone was going to ask this. If you do a search, there on YouTube for example there are several videos that address this issue…and they are from reputable sources. If I’m so inclined I’ll post some links.
Oh, _youtube_, you say? And so easy to absorb while sitting on the research throne in the little research room, doing your own research!
No it’s an expedient way to get information to low IQ dolts like yourself who can’t sit and read actual studies/text books/science…and actually fathom what you’re reading.
“…Low IQ dolts…”
Again, we see an example of the accusation being the confession.
I am truly sorry you feel so confused and aggressive about things you don’t understand.
I know you are but what am I 😂😂😂😂😂😂 The response so you can understand.
Wrong! 😑
Is that too say global warming is not actually a hoax?
It’s just bad science that is being used more for political purposes than actually helping the environment
If I had a nickel for every person denying global warming as "bad science" while knowing absolutely nothing about science I could afford to build my own Doomsday bunker.
Then illuminate us with your knowledge… I’d be interested in your hackneyed arguments. Btw you do realize that none of the so called predictions has come true.
First, I'm not doing your homework for you (especially not to have you then argue about it). Second, one of the differences between us is that when the vast majority of scientific experts concur on an issue within their field I defer to their expertise, whereas you call it "bad science" and denigrate argument to the contrary in advance. Not going to waste my time further with you.
Lots of scientists agreed smoking was good for you back in the day. Now? Not so much. Consensus does not equal accuracy.
You got nothing and you’re lazy. Thing is I can argue the point for you as I’ve studied the so called science 😂😂😂😂😂😂
‘Rising global temperature, caused by carbon emissions.’ FFS! Another one repeating the great carbon lie.
Poor denialist. Refusal to believe evidence because you, without any genuine evidence, don’t want even think about this growing possibility.
The earth’s climate is changing, and far more rapidly than we imagined.
We have probably already reached the point of no return as our carbon emissions continue to spew into the atmosphere and the glaciers melt.
And how is it that the climate changed before humans were emitting current levels of CO2? Perhaps the sun’s influence?
Contemporary climate modeling has been wrong so far.
Wake up people! And use your brains.
There's a lot of ways things go sideways on this earth. For example, in 55 million years ago, the oceans warmed and the cathrates, lattice-llike caps on methane deposits on the ocean floor, failed and an outgassing killed 90% of all species on earth. ... Then there's the "jolt" at 465,000 years ago that coincides with a HUGE upsurge of new species. What we know from ice cores is that ice cores show a massive upsurge in CO2 in the atmosphere immediately before the onset of the last ice age. Nobody knows why. You're right, it wasn't human, but the incitement of CO2 is obvious.
There is huge meteor strike evidence that affected climate change by changing the atmosphere on earth. Humans are changing the atmosphere through large amounts of polutting emissions as evidenced during covid look down. In Asian, densely populationed cities where mask had to be worn before covid, the mountains were invisible by a bluish fog. The cities on lockdown had clear skies and mountains visible for the first time in decades. Same with LA in San Bernadeno area. You could visible see and feel the effect on eyes and nose before stronger car emission restrictions were passed for the state.
The tracking of temperature and rainfall for over a century, shows changes year after year, that were once in a year in a decade of change.
It's the anthropocene. Processes that were triggered naturally before (and Nature does NOT care about you) can now -- and often are now -- tripped by humans dumping everything from plastic to methane to carbon anywhere they like. We are trashy. That's a problem.
The natural consequence of this condition will be a much better outcome for all of humanity than the impending new world order led by the newly minted fascist U.S. gov along with current authoritarian regimes Chia and russia… ( small r intended😀)…
The Saltstraumen Maelstrom shows up in literature, too! It's the maelstrom of Edgar Allen Poe's 'A Descent Into the Maelstrom'! Seriously, the idea of AMOC shutting down is seriously scary.
Dark days ahead! And no solutions in sight. https://towardseudaemonia.substack.com/p/there-be-dragons
More climate hysteria porn!
You nutters have been churning out this kind of garbage for approximately 40 years, and none of it has come to pass.
Your climate alarmism pseudo religion is the continuation of the Puritanical 'end of the world is nigh' mindset in this secular age.
Your insane Net Zero project will more likely cause the collapse of the advanced civilisation that has existed in Europe since the Industrial Revolution. You are fools!!
But the MAGA anti-truth squad has denied global climate change and opened the carbon spicket full blast to assure greater death and destruction.
As opposed to your hysterical climate death cult?
“Cult?” You actually invoke the word “cult” in your remark? Startling, really, considering your MAGA-like rejoinder to an article on the science of global climate change.
What about this Woods Hole article that says the AMOC has not weakened in the last 60 years (contrary to earlier studies that suggested it was approaching collapse)?
This was published in Jan. 2025. https://www.whoi.edu/press-room/news-release/no-amoc-decline/
Key takeaways from that article::
"The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) has not slowed down since the mid-20th century based on the North Atlantic air-sea heat fluxes over that time.
This finding contrasts with studies that have estimated a decline in the AMOC, likely because previous studies rely on sea surface temperature measurements to understand how the AMOC has changed. However, sea surface temperature is not a reliable way to reconstruct the AMOC, according to the authors.
Although the AMOC has not declined yet, scientists agree that the Atlantic overturning will slow in the future—but whether the system can collapse entirely and when this collapse would happen is still up for debate. Such a scenario would have catastrophic consequences globally."
Source: https://www.whoi.edu/press-room/news-release/no-amoc-decline/
The solution to this imminent crisis? HIGHER TAXES, of course!
Yes. On the privileged and wealthy… who have most benefitted from present society.
Uh huh. And if you won the lottery you'd never worry about the poors again.
In an economy, nothing gets done unless money moves. So if action on climate happens, someone must work for pay. Where can that money come from? Do you think corporations will see this as profitable? Not compared to the much quicker profit from making tons of cheap junk to service people’s pleasure addictions. Will governments do it? Not very effectively, but some will at least pretend to. And you know where their money has to come from. TAXES. (If they just print it, they devalue the money into hyperinflation.)
So the choice is, get the money from somewhere, or sit back and die with all your toys around you.
Stan, I'm a veteran of environmental disasters since the 70s: global freezing, overpopulation, mass starvation, global warming, melting ice caps, peak oil, “climate change,” rising sea levels, covid’s Winter Death, wasteful wind/solar spending and now this, The Atlantic Vortex of Cthulhu. Every last hoax meant higher taxes which never go away and fewer freedoms.
You poor chump. Billionaires got tax cuts.
And your shit “Party of the Little Guy” fought against eliminating taxes on tips while fighting for illegals.
So much vitriol from a guy who no longer has to pay tax on tips and no longer has to suffer the indignity of illegals picking his fruit and vegetables, doing all the other jobs he doesn't want to do, and paying taxes on their non-tip wages. And prices are down, too, everyone is saying. Are we great again yet?
Why don't you shitlibs all move to mexico or ukraine or palestine? All three need manbuns swilling lattes.
Very scary for our planet and no one in power gives a damn.
It is a simple matter of time. All of this is over lifetimes of time up to thousands of years. And every body posting will be dead.
Like Fuken eh what joke. Doom and gloom on steroids with politics to boot. Reading dumb and dumber comments. What if nobody knows? What predictions have come true? None I’m aware. Live in your fear, your choice…
Actually, one of the dreadful lessons of a rapid sea change can be that a mini ice age brought on by a change in North Atlantic salinity is that the Younger Dryas developed in around 10 months, lasted 1500 years, and then abated in less than a year. “Glacial paces” tend to be the proverbial 100,000 years of boredom followed by 1,500 years of sheer terror. There is a GREAT book that came out in 2008 called “With Speed and Violence” by the New Scientist writer Fred Pearce. It explores tipping points in climate change — the fast stuff that can really come on fast and have devastating effects. And with glaciers melting and putting more fresh water in the sea to screw up the salinity, this is one of those hit-the-wall issues. The other is the pending population crisis — and I don’t mean the falling birthrate. I mean the fact that if we stopped breeding right now, we would STILL top out at 11.2 billion people in 2021. The way Neal de Grasse Tyson talks about that is that it WON’T exterminate us, though many will starve and die of contaminater water. Many of us will survive, but life will be hell on earth. And governments aren’t responding fast enough because big money is such a corrupting factor. But … anyway … even years later, Fred Pearce’s book is amazing to read. https://www.amazon.com/Speed-Violence-Scientists-Tipping-Climate/dp/0807085774/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35HY92GMWN6YV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uP-UygXgaS4rkYrHIkLTNxZ0xCkjKr1TmL3UkR6k5de6WL2svh5ImV5jCp0g1ZiepADyVaUX7n5najzu_Yrxl2UksZ1t7MPbja7qXVW9bbX9zi4uFodoX5EJjxFhdrBaY_aX-SXSzWkVMhoINlNIrey7O3-044kzAaj6vIKICFBT6OijimDHIAhp1zTOSV4sDFpA5eWGVnKvXLZT42ig8aULkZKzHX56mPt39wTtmWI.55sBJ_pEgbMQeDOm42deZiiXORSY9EoQxre9vXSf01U&dib_tag=se&keywords=With+Speed+and+Violence&qid=1755869029&sprefix=with+speed+and+violence%2Caps%2C1487&sr=8-1
Reading your post saddens me; I think and feel similarly. My hope is centered around the planet and its creatures surviving with enough resources to eventually thrive again. Humans, being the world’s worst species, must go, must destroy themselves, the sooner the better.
But, but we’re so intellectual. We can’t even get along on a single block, much less a neighborhood. I once believed “thou shall not kill” meant something. It’s like we are desensitized as this being normal. Upside down world. Barnum clown show everywhere. The new normal. Do you fit in? I don’t…minding my own business.