I can't imagine he didn't have her read this speech before he gave it. It's sooooooooo carefully worded and sooooooooooo balanced in terms of agreement and disagreement with Butker's vile positions that he comes off looking sooooooooo FAIR. BUT, giving it a pass on religious grounds is the kicker here because it means any of us can do anything and hide it behind religious belief like Trump hides an insurrection behind alleged presidential immunity. We have to stop giving religion a pass.
Young Buetker and his wife are perfectly free to live their lives as they want. So do the rest of us as we, too, have the same rights that do not agree with their way. So far. So long as Trumpistan is not reelected and the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 that would rule us with an iron fist - arrest us, jail us, put us in concentration camps, the whole Nazi gameplan. No lie. That’s real.
Yup, I agree. This jackass misogynist was free to express his opinion--which infuriated many of the Catholic students in his audience--and the rest of us are free to express our profound distrust of and disgust at the MRA-manosphere anti-woman prejudice behind it. And yes, we are, with Project 2025, looking at the Fourth Reich.
I am SOFA KING tired of all religious cult members pushing their, in many cases, psychotic beliefs in ethereal anthropomorphic male “gods”, with zero scientific proof of existence but plenty of male-driven self-serving editorial effects to their supportive theologies, being given a free pass because they have a “strongly held religious belief”. Bullshit!
When I jimmied the lock on the freezer in the basement of my middle school kitchen because I had a “strongly held religious belief” that I wanted an ice cream sandwich, the principal said, “Bullshit!” I got three whacks with a wooden paddle, two days suspension, and a note written to my parents.
Two things:
1) Someone needs to call bullshit on Butker. Since when does a place kicker get to give a commencement address? What were those people even thinking?!
2) Ms. Swift should reconsider what sort of person Travis Kelce is, before hitching herself to him, or bearing his children. In Butker’s wet dream, Kelce should pass Taylor around to the whole team, right? Because, boys need to bust a nut, and girls can’t say no, because “gawd” ‘n stuff.
Yup. The sad thing is that the male code is so strong that, on some level, it's always really hard for men to outright criticize each other--even if they don't agree at all. And these two men have the "team" on their minds and what this controversy will do to next year's chances for a winning season. So they soft-peddle it, even though Mahomes has previously said he WON'T SPEAK TO BUTKER. He can't stand the guy. ... And the problem with women is they are always divided between the women willing to lose husbands, parents, and children to get this insanity stopped, and the women who will sell out another woman in 10 seconds to get a man, the women who don't want to face the low pay, sexism, and five-foot-thick glass ceilings on her own with kids to put through college. It's asymmetrical warfare for rights all the time. And that's just sexism. When you get to racism, it's even worse. ... I'm heartsick, though: Butker took a swipe at Jews OUTSIDE of Catholic doctrine, and catapulted fireballs at guys as well. The petition to remove him from the Chiefs line-up now stands at 226,439 as of this writing. I haven't signed it and won't. Freedom of speech means having a right to say your piece without being punished for it. What we need is healthy debate, and we're getting it. He has just exposed religious misogyny (see Pavlovich on this, he's brilliant), MRA misogyny, and the craven self-interest. of his co-players. At least the NFL did it right. And the nuns did it right. But that's about it. We just need to keep talking about this.
This is a turd show. It’s not religious. It’s Misogyny and disrespect for an entire gender. Disrespect of mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, girlfriends. Disrespect for half the world & this country.
Agree with you, but please stop repeating the lie that 7 S.Ct. justices are Catholic. Six are Catholic - you’re probably including Gorsuch in your count, and although he attended Catholic schools, he is in fact Episcopalian.
Some men shouldn’t have a wife….or a dog or any companion
Or be allowed to raise (read: groom) a daughter ...
That’s for damn sure!
I seriously hope TayTay is having a long hard chat with Trav.
I can't imagine he didn't have her read this speech before he gave it. It's sooooooooo carefully worded and sooooooooooo balanced in terms of agreement and disagreement with Butker's vile positions that he comes off looking sooooooooo FAIR. BUT, giving it a pass on religious grounds is the kicker here because it means any of us can do anything and hide it behind religious belief like Trump hides an insurrection behind alleged presidential immunity. We have to stop giving religion a pass.
Young Buetker and his wife are perfectly free to live their lives as they want. So do the rest of us as we, too, have the same rights that do not agree with their way. So far. So long as Trumpistan is not reelected and the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 that would rule us with an iron fist - arrest us, jail us, put us in concentration camps, the whole Nazi gameplan. No lie. That’s real.
Yup, I agree. This jackass misogynist was free to express his opinion--which infuriated many of the Catholic students in his audience--and the rest of us are free to express our profound distrust of and disgust at the MRA-manosphere anti-woman prejudice behind it. And yes, we are, with Project 2025, looking at the Fourth Reich.
Subscribed.
It IS real - and if THAT doesn’t scare you, I guess nothing will!
We’re not talking about big brains here…..the boys are just sticking up for their bigoted teammate.
Yup. The "religious beliefs" defense is very, very slick and slippery. And horrible.
I am SOFA KING tired of all religious cult members pushing their, in many cases, psychotic beliefs in ethereal anthropomorphic male “gods”, with zero scientific proof of existence but plenty of male-driven self-serving editorial effects to their supportive theologies, being given a free pass because they have a “strongly held religious belief”. Bullshit!
When I jimmied the lock on the freezer in the basement of my middle school kitchen because I had a “strongly held religious belief” that I wanted an ice cream sandwich, the principal said, “Bullshit!” I got three whacks with a wooden paddle, two days suspension, and a note written to my parents.
Two things:
1) Someone needs to call bullshit on Butker. Since when does a place kicker get to give a commencement address? What were those people even thinking?!
2) Ms. Swift should reconsider what sort of person Travis Kelce is, before hitching herself to him, or bearing his children. In Butker’s wet dream, Kelce should pass Taylor around to the whole team, right? Because, boys need to bust a nut, and girls can’t say no, because “gawd” ‘n stuff.
Disgusting pigs.
Damn! Fave comment du jour!!!
And everything you point out is why I (raised & educated in the cult of Catholic Church) ran from that nightmare as soon as I possibly could!
Then they’re just as CORRUPT.
Yup. The sad thing is that the male code is so strong that, on some level, it's always really hard for men to outright criticize each other--even if they don't agree at all. And these two men have the "team" on their minds and what this controversy will do to next year's chances for a winning season. So they soft-peddle it, even though Mahomes has previously said he WON'T SPEAK TO BUTKER. He can't stand the guy. ... And the problem with women is they are always divided between the women willing to lose husbands, parents, and children to get this insanity stopped, and the women who will sell out another woman in 10 seconds to get a man, the women who don't want to face the low pay, sexism, and five-foot-thick glass ceilings on her own with kids to put through college. It's asymmetrical warfare for rights all the time. And that's just sexism. When you get to racism, it's even worse. ... I'm heartsick, though: Butker took a swipe at Jews OUTSIDE of Catholic doctrine, and catapulted fireballs at guys as well. The petition to remove him from the Chiefs line-up now stands at 226,439 as of this writing. I haven't signed it and won't. Freedom of speech means having a right to say your piece without being punished for it. What we need is healthy debate, and we're getting it. He has just exposed religious misogyny (see Pavlovich on this, he's brilliant), MRA misogyny, and the craven self-interest. of his co-players. At least the NFL did it right. And the nuns did it right. But that's about it. We just need to keep talking about this.
No, freedom of speech does NOT mean you’re protected from the consequences of what you say.
AGREED!!!! ... GLAAD is already commenting, and I sure hope the RCC and the ADL pipes up, too.
Tell it like it is, goddam it!
You KNEW they were just as big an asshole as Butker
This is a turd show. It’s not religious. It’s Misogyny and disrespect for an entire gender. Disrespect of mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, girlfriends. Disrespect for half the world & this country.
Bullshit. Pure Bullshit.
Lost completely 2 housefuls of fans
That’s crap. His religion is no excuse to look down on others and think women’s health issues are within his right to even have an opinion on.
Right. The only person who should decide a woman's fate about anything is a woman.
Football players are basically brain dead (too many knocks on the head) self-entitled assholes.
Religion - ALL religion - is toxic.
Agree with you, but please stop repeating the lie that 7 S.Ct. justices are Catholic. Six are Catholic - you’re probably including Gorsuch in your count, and although he attended Catholic schools, he is in fact Episcopalian.
OK, I'll make that clear in the future! Promise! ...
Well, that’s disappointing.