RFK Jr claims to have not met autistic people when he was younger, which is one of his reasons for claiming vaccines cause autism, something long debunked, as you say. However, his Aunt Eunice started a camp for developmentally disabled kids in 1962 and it later became the Special Olympics in 1968. We didn’t know some of those early participants were on the autism spectrum then, but we know that now, so RFK Jr is either lying or clueless. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for heading up HHS.
RFK Jr is only a few years older than I am, so it’s unlikely he never saw people with polio. I went to school with some kids who were paralyzed from polio and had special rolling platforms they used to come to class. I was hospitalized with measles at 9 months old and the doctors thought I would die. I have no knowledge of his medical records but it’s unlikely he wasn’t vaccinated against many of the things he will subject school children to now if he has his way. Unfortunately there’s no way to strip him of the immunities those vaccines conferred and then throw him into an area with an outbreak of several of them. I don’t suppose anyone know where to find the mother bear of that cub?…
It's very clear that autism has risen precipitously over the last century. There were, truly, fewer cases, AS DEFINED THEN. But you make a sad, brilliant case for autism earlier than we would have labelled it such. ... However, there is so much evidence now that the upsurge of autism cases is staggering. According to available data, the prevalence of autism diagnoses has increased significantly over the last century, with estimates suggesting a rise of over 1000%, meaning the number of diagnosed cases is now over 10 times higher compared to the early 20th century, primarily attributed to increased awareness and broader diagnostic criteria rather than a true biological increase in autism cases. So here's what we know: In 1965, the time when RFK, Jr's mum started a camp for disabled kids, the rate of autism in the United States was one in 2,500 people. Now, it's one in 36. Now, if that doesn't scare people, their amygdalas are flat-lined. ... Stephanie Sennett, who is a brilliant MIT computer expert, has been running on the numbers on this for a long time. She says it's GLYPHOSATE in ROUND-UP, and that autism is related to the destruction of the gut biome -- of which glyphosate has proved to be deadly -- in both pregnant women and newborn babies fed either breastmilk contaminated from the mother or formula contaminated from agriculatural practices adopting or being force-fed (winds) the impact glyphosate in the foods we consume. This is why the EU banned Round-Up. Now, another thing to know is that autism affects boys at four times the rate it targets girls -- and the best immune people on earth from this poisoning are white women because they're female and because people of color have a particularly low allergic trigger to glyphosate, and it tears them up faster. ... That's as much as I know. If you find out anything further, please let me know.
I’m sorry I didn’t respond sooner but I wanted to do some research and then it slipped my mind. It was all brought back to the front of mind with RFK Jr’s plans to study the link with vaccines because of course that’s the best use of research money on a topic already laid to rest.
There was a study in Nature or one of its sub publications on BPA found in higher rates in pregnant women’s urine who had sons born with autism. I’d been thinking about plastic for a long time as a factor in health issues and this lead me to look further. None of what I found is conclusive but the timing is suggestive given the increased use of plastic in food handling and packaging and the rise in autism. There’s some secondary research showing that BPA and phthalates interfere with brain function. I can list citations if you like. The journal is Environmental Health Perspectives and I don’t know enough to know if it’s considered credible. This isn’t my area of expertise, I worked in a neurological research institute before going into high tech and computer security but not in this area.
I think the other factor outside biological causes is at least twofold. As you said, autism as we knew it in the 1960s was a much more limited understanding of the condition, mostly applied to the lowest functioning people on the ASD spectrum. A person we would now describe as highly functioning in the neurodivergent spectrum would have simply been seen as awkward, shy, socially inept etc. Second, women are just now being diagnosed in larger numbers because their behavior is different and I suspect there were a lot of women who were simply missed completely.
The only way to stop RFK Jr. from implementing his crazy conspiracy theory driven ideas is with complex litigation, a lot of it with multiple cases. The plan would be to prevent him from doing anything until all of the cases are finished, including all appeals.
Uh, no, but he's seen it all before. We need PEOPLE to get it. For example, in the Middle Ages the average life expectancy was 30-35 years. What drove the number down was the number of kids who died from endemic communicable diseases--measles, mumps, chicken pox--the stuff we have vaccines for today. If you could live past childhood, you might live what we would call a normal lifespan. And many women died in childbirth or of child bed fever after. Let's take John Milton. His first wife had four for him: his only son died at age one; his wife died at age 27 after the birth of their youngest daughter. His second wife died just after delivering a daughter, and the infant died four months later. He lost two wives and two children in five years--both wives to childbirth, both children to endemic childhood diseases. And what changed that? Vaccines for children and a realization that doctors and midwives were spreading disease from one child bed to the next and killing the woman (discovered by Scottish doctor Alexander Gordon in the 18th century). God there's a lot of typos in this piece.
Good read. Now that bird flu has jumped species it will be extremely important especially of congress fails us and allows JFK, Jr. to be confirmed. Heaven help us.
Before vaccines I had varicella meningitis at 25 and was blind for 5 days. Now I have Giant Cell Arteritis. Vaccines have saved my life many times over. Especially with what is available today.
I am old and I’ve gotten every vaccine that was publicly distributed plus a sugar cube with a drop or two of the polio vaccine. Many of these plus smallpox shot were given to grade school students at school. As a child, I had three different versions of the measles and the mumps twice. So I’m safe. Earlier in the year, I got the newest shingle vaccine. I don’t believe the rabid fear of vaccines that have been used for generations are the cause of subsequent illnesses.
The rise of Autism, especially in boys, needs a proper double-blind testing and research funds. We can also work with European medical researchers. We aren’t the only scientists gathering critical data.
I believe we need to do better in researching new medicines . Letting the manufacturers do their own testing doesn’t sound like good science or good governance.
When I was in the 4th grade, my little friend Patricia Snell died of polio. This was MOMENTS before the Salk vaccine rolled out. On Friday she just looked flushed, and the teacher sent her home. When she didn't come in on Monday morning, our teacher was frantic, and the principal went to find her. She'd already died. Then we had an epidemic of Scarlet Fever in our town and almost every street in town had multiple red flags hurried planted in the earth in front of houses. Nobody could come out, so my dad and I took bags and bags of groceries and placed them midway up the walkways so they could run out and get them. Farmers and grocery stores donated every extra scrap of food they had, and as the winter wore on and the fields went fallow, people emptied their stores of vegetables and fruits they'd canned the previous summer, and everybody got fed until the crisis was over--and that took MONTHS. People were being buried all the time, but there were no funerals because it was too dangerous for that. There were no basketball games or football games. What are these people thinking???? What are they thinking???? And should others have to die for their poor logic and huge egos?
The uninformed think their feelings are more important than demonstrable scientific and medical knowledge. The problem is switching them on to reality as opposed to simplistic bullshit and lies from prominent people who are talking crap.
I don’t ever want to have us be so frightened as in your personal account. There have many instances around the world that people died when there were preventative measures. Ignorance is deadly. We have successfully eradicated diseases becase intelligent scientists dedicated their lives in the service of others. COVID devastated our country and around the world. We haven’t conquered it and the virus mutations are possible. Malaria could be conquered. We know how to stop it before people get sick. Mosquitoes can be controlled. Many solutions have negligible costs.
The idea that COVID shots haven’t been tested is ludicrous. The largest test in the world used us as the test subjects. All medicines and vaccines can and do have side effects primarily because it is impossible to predict how everyone will react. But if the risk is worth it, it’s how we protect ourselves and others.
I think what drives me nuts is the utter lack of trust in science. Yes, science has created toxins and testing should actually be done in conjunction with manufactures. Toxic spills and dumping along with ignorance and profit motives require monitoring and listening to victims. My husband died due to exposure to Agent Orange so I understand what can happen without strong testing.
We must also work with scientists around the world. Working together seems more efficient and can amplify productivity.
What I find interesting is that most vaccines skeptics are college educated women. Perhaps our history of experimentation on unknowing subjects has increased our eagerness to distrust manufacturers and governments?
Patrick, please see Ann Roberts' note below. And here's what I found out about that, Ann:
The melting permafrost in the Russian tundra could release diseases that have been dormant for centuries or even millions of years. These diseases could include:
Anthrax: In 2016, a heat wave in Siberia thawed permafrost and released a decades-old reindeer carcass infected with anthrax. The outbreak killed 2,649 reindeer and sickened 36 people, including a 12-year-old boy who died.
Smallpox: This disease is known to exist in the frozen tundra.
Spanish flu: The 1918 Spanish flu is known to exist in the frozen tundra.
Other viruses: Permafrost may contain viruses that are up to a million years old, which could include viruses that humans have never been in contact with before.
Well, smallpox is the only human disease ever eradicated. The last case was a kid in Somalia in 1977, and by 1980, there wasn't one on the planet. So the eradicated year is 1980, and we're now 45 years on from that. BUT we know that there are isolated tribes in Borneo, in Africa, and in South America, and we frankly don't know what is going on with them. It certainly could be lurking there.
Careful here. As someone on the autism spectrum, living in Europe, I can clearly see hereditary pathway through my dad and my own children. I haven’t seen the MIT research but I think it’s worth a read, and frankly the US needs to take a more safety-first approach to chemicals. We’re not communists over here, we just like our fellow humans to be treated fairly and safely.
As an RN( retired), I studied Ma d looked at many studies also.
MS Morgan your article is suburb!
Concise, clarifying w data facts that make it easy for anyone to follow.
THANK YOU!!
When FLCCC made a program outline of supplements to take.
Over time; and I know several ppl that are taking36/ Suppliment / per day to counteract either Covid or the vaccine 4 Covid. The etiology doesn’t bear out what they are taking all this for.
A clinical study unless it has 30,000 ppl or more in it; just isn’t a qty large enough to write a paper .
Moms, granmamas, sisters, brothers, partners and other family members get ready for mumps, measles, diphtheria, polio, smallpox, whooping cough and flu!!!
Trump now has you, an intelligent medical person, all fired up over who's-right-in-medicine- them-or-us. This is what he wants from you. I appreciate all the effort you've gone to, in order to discredit RFK, but that's Trump's temporary kidnapping of your above average intelligence. He wants the smart people to be distracted by un-winable situations and arguments so what he's REALLY doing will be a little less noticeable. He's consolidating power by weakening the powers around him so they will all fall to him. It's been happening already. Weak person over the military—now it belongs to Trump because Heggseth belongs to Trump. Why are you arguing science? (Why can't I spell the soon-to-be Secretary's name?)
RFK Jr claims to have not met autistic people when he was younger, which is one of his reasons for claiming vaccines cause autism, something long debunked, as you say. However, his Aunt Eunice started a camp for developmentally disabled kids in 1962 and it later became the Special Olympics in 1968. We didn’t know some of those early participants were on the autism spectrum then, but we know that now, so RFK Jr is either lying or clueless. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for heading up HHS.
RFK Jr is only a few years older than I am, so it’s unlikely he never saw people with polio. I went to school with some kids who were paralyzed from polio and had special rolling platforms they used to come to class. I was hospitalized with measles at 9 months old and the doctors thought I would die. I have no knowledge of his medical records but it’s unlikely he wasn’t vaccinated against many of the things he will subject school children to now if he has his way. Unfortunately there’s no way to strip him of the immunities those vaccines conferred and then throw him into an area with an outbreak of several of them. I don’t suppose anyone know where to find the mother bear of that cub?…
It's very clear that autism has risen precipitously over the last century. There were, truly, fewer cases, AS DEFINED THEN. But you make a sad, brilliant case for autism earlier than we would have labelled it such. ... However, there is so much evidence now that the upsurge of autism cases is staggering. According to available data, the prevalence of autism diagnoses has increased significantly over the last century, with estimates suggesting a rise of over 1000%, meaning the number of diagnosed cases is now over 10 times higher compared to the early 20th century, primarily attributed to increased awareness and broader diagnostic criteria rather than a true biological increase in autism cases. So here's what we know: In 1965, the time when RFK, Jr's mum started a camp for disabled kids, the rate of autism in the United States was one in 2,500 people. Now, it's one in 36. Now, if that doesn't scare people, their amygdalas are flat-lined. ... Stephanie Sennett, who is a brilliant MIT computer expert, has been running on the numbers on this for a long time. She says it's GLYPHOSATE in ROUND-UP, and that autism is related to the destruction of the gut biome -- of which glyphosate has proved to be deadly -- in both pregnant women and newborn babies fed either breastmilk contaminated from the mother or formula contaminated from agriculatural practices adopting or being force-fed (winds) the impact glyphosate in the foods we consume. This is why the EU banned Round-Up. Now, another thing to know is that autism affects boys at four times the rate it targets girls -- and the best immune people on earth from this poisoning are white women because they're female and because people of color have a particularly low allergic trigger to glyphosate, and it tears them up faster. ... That's as much as I know. If you find out anything further, please let me know.
I’m sorry I didn’t respond sooner but I wanted to do some research and then it slipped my mind. It was all brought back to the front of mind with RFK Jr’s plans to study the link with vaccines because of course that’s the best use of research money on a topic already laid to rest.
There was a study in Nature or one of its sub publications on BPA found in higher rates in pregnant women’s urine who had sons born with autism. I’d been thinking about plastic for a long time as a factor in health issues and this lead me to look further. None of what I found is conclusive but the timing is suggestive given the increased use of plastic in food handling and packaging and the rise in autism. There’s some secondary research showing that BPA and phthalates interfere with brain function. I can list citations if you like. The journal is Environmental Health Perspectives and I don’t know enough to know if it’s considered credible. This isn’t my area of expertise, I worked in a neurological research institute before going into high tech and computer security but not in this area.
I think the other factor outside biological causes is at least twofold. As you said, autism as we knew it in the 1960s was a much more limited understanding of the condition, mostly applied to the lowest functioning people on the ASD spectrum. A person we would now describe as highly functioning in the neurodivergent spectrum would have simply been seen as awkward, shy, socially inept etc. Second, women are just now being diagnosed in larger numbers because their behavior is different and I suspect there were a lot of women who were simply missed completely.
Great article. Thank you.
The only way to stop RFK Jr. from implementing his crazy conspiracy theory driven ideas is with complex litigation, a lot of it with multiple cases. The plan would be to prevent him from doing anything until all of the cases are finished, including all appeals.
Give him some heroin, he will drop everything and go back to nodding out!
Bwahahahaha… Nice!
This is an outstanding article! Extremely thorough and explained very clearly for a layperson. My big question: HAVE YOU SENT TO THIS RFK, JR.?
Uh, no, but he's seen it all before. We need PEOPLE to get it. For example, in the Middle Ages the average life expectancy was 30-35 years. What drove the number down was the number of kids who died from endemic communicable diseases--measles, mumps, chicken pox--the stuff we have vaccines for today. If you could live past childhood, you might live what we would call a normal lifespan. And many women died in childbirth or of child bed fever after. Let's take John Milton. His first wife had four for him: his only son died at age one; his wife died at age 27 after the birth of their youngest daughter. His second wife died just after delivering a daughter, and the infant died four months later. He lost two wives and two children in five years--both wives to childbirth, both children to endemic childhood diseases. And what changed that? Vaccines for children and a realization that doctors and midwives were spreading disease from one child bed to the next and killing the woman (discovered by Scottish doctor Alexander Gordon in the 18th century). God there's a lot of typos in this piece.
Thanks.
Good read. Now that bird flu has jumped species it will be extremely important especially of congress fails us and allows JFK, Jr. to be confirmed. Heaven help us.
Before vaccines I had varicella meningitis at 25 and was blind for 5 days. Now I have Giant Cell Arteritis. Vaccines have saved my life many times over. Especially with what is available today.
This is a great article full of facts. Heaven help us all especially the children.
I am old and I’ve gotten every vaccine that was publicly distributed plus a sugar cube with a drop or two of the polio vaccine. Many of these plus smallpox shot were given to grade school students at school. As a child, I had three different versions of the measles and the mumps twice. So I’m safe. Earlier in the year, I got the newest shingle vaccine. I don’t believe the rabid fear of vaccines that have been used for generations are the cause of subsequent illnesses.
The rise of Autism, especially in boys, needs a proper double-blind testing and research funds. We can also work with European medical researchers. We aren’t the only scientists gathering critical data.
I believe we need to do better in researching new medicines . Letting the manufacturers do their own testing doesn’t sound like good science or good governance.
When I was in the 4th grade, my little friend Patricia Snell died of polio. This was MOMENTS before the Salk vaccine rolled out. On Friday she just looked flushed, and the teacher sent her home. When she didn't come in on Monday morning, our teacher was frantic, and the principal went to find her. She'd already died. Then we had an epidemic of Scarlet Fever in our town and almost every street in town had multiple red flags hurried planted in the earth in front of houses. Nobody could come out, so my dad and I took bags and bags of groceries and placed them midway up the walkways so they could run out and get them. Farmers and grocery stores donated every extra scrap of food they had, and as the winter wore on and the fields went fallow, people emptied their stores of vegetables and fruits they'd canned the previous summer, and everybody got fed until the crisis was over--and that took MONTHS. People were being buried all the time, but there were no funerals because it was too dangerous for that. There were no basketball games or football games. What are these people thinking???? What are they thinking???? And should others have to die for their poor logic and huge egos?
The uninformed think their feelings are more important than demonstrable scientific and medical knowledge. The problem is switching them on to reality as opposed to simplistic bullshit and lies from prominent people who are talking crap.
I don’t ever want to have us be so frightened as in your personal account. There have many instances around the world that people died when there were preventative measures. Ignorance is deadly. We have successfully eradicated diseases becase intelligent scientists dedicated their lives in the service of others. COVID devastated our country and around the world. We haven’t conquered it and the virus mutations are possible. Malaria could be conquered. We know how to stop it before people get sick. Mosquitoes can be controlled. Many solutions have negligible costs.
The idea that COVID shots haven’t been tested is ludicrous. The largest test in the world used us as the test subjects. All medicines and vaccines can and do have side effects primarily because it is impossible to predict how everyone will react. But if the risk is worth it, it’s how we protect ourselves and others.
I think what drives me nuts is the utter lack of trust in science. Yes, science has created toxins and testing should actually be done in conjunction with manufactures. Toxic spills and dumping along with ignorance and profit motives require monitoring and listening to victims. My husband died due to exposure to Agent Orange so I understand what can happen without strong testing.
We must also work with scientists around the world. Working together seems more efficient and can amplify productivity.
What I find interesting is that most vaccines skeptics are college educated women. Perhaps our history of experimentation on unknowing subjects has increased our eagerness to distrust manufacturers and governments?
We are seeing a reemergence of polio and measles, I am sure small pox and other diseases are back on the table.
Patrick, please see Ann Roberts' note below. And here's what I found out about that, Ann:
The melting permafrost in the Russian tundra could release diseases that have been dormant for centuries or even millions of years. These diseases could include:
Anthrax: In 2016, a heat wave in Siberia thawed permafrost and released a decades-old reindeer carcass infected with anthrax. The outbreak killed 2,649 reindeer and sickened 36 people, including a 12-year-old boy who died.
Smallpox: This disease is known to exist in the frozen tundra.
Spanish flu: The 1918 Spanish flu is known to exist in the frozen tundra.
Other viruses: Permafrost may contain viruses that are up to a million years old, which could include viruses that humans have never been in contact with before.
Well, smallpox is the only human disease ever eradicated. The last case was a kid in Somalia in 1977, and by 1980, there wasn't one on the planet. So the eradicated year is 1980, and we're now 45 years on from that. BUT we know that there are isolated tribes in Borneo, in Africa, and in South America, and we frankly don't know what is going on with them. It certainly could be lurking there.
I hear the melting tundra in Russia may harbor plague! What a time to be alive…/s
Ann, see above under Patrick P's comment. Oh, lordy!!!!!!!!!
I would like to see rfk jr. In a clinical trial.
A very long one.
Careful here. As someone on the autism spectrum, living in Europe, I can clearly see hereditary pathway through my dad and my own children. I haven’t seen the MIT research but I think it’s worth a read, and frankly the US needs to take a more safety-first approach to chemicals. We’re not communists over here, we just like our fellow humans to be treated fairly and safely.
As an RN( retired), I studied Ma d looked at many studies also.
MS Morgan your article is suburb!
Concise, clarifying w data facts that make it easy for anyone to follow.
THANK YOU!!
When FLCCC made a program outline of supplements to take.
Over time; and I know several ppl that are taking36/ Suppliment / per day to counteract either Covid or the vaccine 4 Covid. The etiology doesn’t bear out what they are taking all this for.
A clinical study unless it has 30,000 ppl or more in it; just isn’t a qty large enough to write a paper .
Thank you again.
Moms, granmamas, sisters, brothers, partners and other family members get ready for mumps, measles, diphtheria, polio, smallpox, whooping cough and flu!!!
Trump now has you, an intelligent medical person, all fired up over who's-right-in-medicine- them-or-us. This is what he wants from you. I appreciate all the effort you've gone to, in order to discredit RFK, but that's Trump's temporary kidnapping of your above average intelligence. He wants the smart people to be distracted by un-winable situations and arguments so what he's REALLY doing will be a little less noticeable. He's consolidating power by weakening the powers around him so they will all fall to him. It's been happening already. Weak person over the military—now it belongs to Trump because Heggseth belongs to Trump. Why are you arguing science? (Why can't I spell the soon-to-be Secretary's name?)
Remember iron lungs?
Great conversation.
I no longer have words for corruption and stupidity.