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Brenda Lanning's avatar

Morgaan this goes much deeper. I was chatting in a group last night and a person in that group had done a deep dive into Butker. He is involved in several religious organizations including Benedictine College. A couple of those organizations have been founded by Leonard Leo. This person had diagrams showing the names of the organization as well as officers involved and Butker and Leo's name came up. Leo was chairman of the Federalist Society and took a break to work with trump on judical picks. He chose the last 3 Supreme Court Justices for trump to nominate as well as being influential in the confirmation of the other 3 conservative justices. He is now working with the states to get conservative justices in place as well as founding organizations to recruit young republicans. They are working in lockstep with the Heritage Foundation to push forward Project 2025 if trump takes office again. There is a lot of information about Leo from an article Pro Publica wrote.

https://www.propublica.Org/article/we-dont-talk-about-leonard-leo-supreme-court-supermajority

There are a couple of other articles on Leo and the push to create a theocracy, which we well know involves the greatly diminished status of women. I am trying to find the sources of the articles again.

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Rigel Dyess Hall's avatar

Lenard Leo needs to talk to his SCOTUS buddies about Trump’s Presidential Immunity argument. Assassinating your political opponents is not only a double edged sword, it is a double ended sword.

Surely he realizes that he and they could be considered the Political Enemies of the current President?

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Ann Higgins's avatar

Nothing better demonstrates the difference between Trump and Biden than the fact that no-one fears what Biden would do if he were handed absolute immunity, and most reasonable people are scared stiff at the prospect its being handed to Trump.

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Morgaan Sinclair, Ph.D.'s avatar

You nailed that! And with a possessive case before the gerund, too!!!

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Jill Horner's avatar

Oops, I’m in between two grammarians🫣

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Morgaan Sinclair, Ph.D.'s avatar

Academic book editor. Own Pleiades Books. But it's Joanne Shepherd, the real grammarian, to whom I owe pristine manuscripts!!!

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Jill Horner's avatar

Good that there are people who like and/or need these skills!

I appreciate good grammar, but to always be perfect in that, I don’t aspire…..😁

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Ann Higgins's avatar

Thanks. I see I omitted the “of” which should have preceded the “it’s” but still it’s nice to be appreciated.

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Morgaan Sinclair, Ph.D.'s avatar

I can't stop laughing. I'm burning the tilapia, and I'm sitting here reading your comments and dissolving in laughter.

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Teresa Shane's avatar

Here's my take. I'm a thrice divorced, educated woman whose 3rd hubby decided he didn't want the obligation of being married. If I was one of the women like these men want, I'd be screwed. As it is, I retired from military, made sure I took care of me, and now will retire and do well....without a husband. Because they BAILED on their responsibilities. I have never, and will never, depend on someone else to take care of me.

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Laurie Flamino's avatar

Always best to be sure you can take care of and manage your own life. Damn the man who attempts to say otherwise.

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Jill Horner's avatar

I came to this too late :(

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Cynthia Verdell's avatar

An overgrown white privileged boy thinks he can speak for women. He is delusional at best. They crucified Kaepernick for kneeling because of the brutality of the police officers killing black people. Now they support this little boy who can’t stand up to his own mother who is the very opposite of the bullshit he spoke about. And Whoopi Goldberg needs to shut the fuck up, anyone that uses abortions as birth control should stop commenting on anything. I understand that people get pregnant and have an abortion. But seven abortions, at some point you have to invest in some type of birth control. Or make them wear a condom. In her case stop having sex!

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LeeAnn Young's avatar

I suspect that Kelse and Mahones are finding excuses for Butker because he reportedly has best kicking stats (89% completion and also longest yards for field goal). They want to win 3rd Super Bowl, so of course that is more important than women’s rights, so they make excuses for Butker for throwing women away. They make lot of money for winning the Superbowl, and money is most important driver in the world.

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Carly's avatar

Whoopi Goldberg's sentiment was insensitive and tone deaf but not completely wrong—it was incomplete. If she had played a good devil's advocate, she could have said, "Harrison Buttlicker was just expressing his horrid, bigoted opinion. I don't agree with it, but that's his right as a citizen of this country, just like it was the completely patriotic entitlement of Colin Kaepernik to kneel. That was both their rights as granted by the First Amendment. BUT just because a person CAN say what they want, without fear of GOVERNMENT REPRISAL—it doesn't mean that someone can expect to say anything WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. And he should be told over and over by as many people as possible that not only is he completely wrong, but sorry, he's literally in the only NFL position that women could feasibly compete directly with—and outperform—a man. So there is that for his "amazing masculine superiority."

But anyway, my only other point is that I wish Eddie Vedder had called Buttlicker and his ilk an "empty ballsack" instead, because I, for one, am taking back pussy to mean "strong, independent woman."

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Judith L Hubbard's avatar

Looking forward to more essays on this topic. The more we understand the behavior, the attitude, the better we push back and regain rights to our bodies and more. Thank you!😊

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Morgaan Sinclair, Ph.D.'s avatar

It's much, much worse than I realized. I've always believed that Islamic predatory expansionism and terrorism was, at core, a rage against losing control of sex-on-demand from women. It boils down to that no matter how fancy the rhetoric gets. Privilege spans a larger sphere, but it starts there. The greatest of all Bin Laden's victories was that men in the West -- and religion in the West -- came to understand just how much control men backed by religion could get. Just pondering is daunting, for we have an enemy to face down that has the most chilling face I have seen in my lifetime.

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Judith L Hubbard's avatar

I hit the like button but more accurately believe you are on target here. And, no, I don’t like this. As a woman, that is devastating to know. 😱 Feel very threatened with loss of power over my life; of course, many women across the globe 🌍 live in such circumstances already. Like a deer in the headlights of an oncoming train in USA. 🇺🇸

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Jill Horner's avatar

As a Foreign Service Brat, I’ve lived in Muslim countries who believe that. At twelve years old, that philosophy shocked me to pieces! My father was a very strong believer in women having the means to support and believe in themselves.

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Teresa Shane's avatar

No one speaks about the women who did all of this stay at home stuff and were abandoned by husband's who wanted a more scintillating conversation.

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Jill Horner's avatar

It is possible to be good in the bedroom and every other room, but are men required to fill the same qualifications??

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Teresa Shane's avatar

Ummm. I'll ask my 2 still living exes ..

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Rose Maly, MD, MSPH's avatar

This is all a bit more than terrifying as we teeter towards theocracy! WTF happened to Gloria Steinem, MS Magazine. the Feminist Revolution, and Marilyn French’s “Beyond Power”???

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Morgaan Sinclair, Ph.D.'s avatar

We're in the backlash to the social freedoms movements that began around 1895. By 1900 a Muslim cleric in Egypt, who read the Qur'an from its earliest fragments, determined that there was no basis for discrimination--or veiling--of women in the Qur'an. By 1915, women in Egypt were unveiling. In March of 1917, Lenin launched the Russian Revolution. By 1920, Princess Soraya of Iran was dancing The Charleston in Cairo. By the early 1930s, a spectacular social revolution in Spain, featuring the Spanish "New Woman" who had essentially broken from male control and the grip of the Roman Catholic Church. Now elitists -- and chauvinists from all over Europe -- had Russia to the east and Spain to the south and feared that their entire economic system would fall to communism and their entire male supremacy system would fall to burgeoning feminist movements. Franco *crushed* Spain's New Woman, and killed 3 million Spaniards in the process. The Roman Catholic Church in Spanish, which is its own breed of terror, was heavily instrumental in the penal system that jail the enemies of the Radical Right for almost 15 years after the war, which ended in 1939, and then helped rewrite the history books to cover what was a holocaust. Distracted from this by the rise of Hitler, the conflagration of World War II and nearly 15 years of rebuilding, social-freedom movements took off again in the 1960s in the West, and the American Women's Liberation Movement made huge strides in just 20 years. But then the backlash started, here and elsewhere. The Iranian Revolution of 1978-79 used the rage of women against the Shah, who was a butcher, to win the revolution, and then within three years force-veiled every woman in the country. Incessant attacks in Egypt forced women into cover in a mass act of self-protection. In Afghanistan, where women wore mini-skirts in the 1960s and were given equality by Zahir Shah because it was "the right thing to do", the Afghan Conflict in which Bin Laden fought alongside the Taliban, destroyed all their freedom forever, with the Taliban instituting the return of the burqa. These are the earliest of the BACKLASH movements against women's rights that are now going on worldwide. In Asia, Mao's revolution did nothing for women, who eventually suffered forced abortions if they had more than one child. In Malaysia, a vicious Islamic state took over from the democracy instituted after World War II. In Indonesia, where a Pancasila Doctrine establishing religious freedom and women's rights, fell to an ugly anti-woman Islamic regime in oiil-rich Aceh province. Everywhere--everywhere--the backlash in women's liberation has proceeded by extremely well-financed groups tied to power-greedy religious interests. ... And in terms of America, Bin Laden's greatest victory was teaching the American male-supremacist Religious Right, largely dominated by a male priesthood, just how much power they could wield over a society--and just how much power they could enforce on a woman. And this also has to do with money. Although the anti-abortion stance of many religionists is absolutely honest, a huge underlying incentive for men is that if you can keep a woman in the homemaker / childbearing mode for 30 years or more, the MALE can have a secular, out-of-home life in which he does not have to compete with a woman for a job, in which he can gather to himself and control ALL THE MONEY IN THE CULTURE, in which he can run the government and the economic system to his personal benefit--and in which he can slowly erode all the freedoms of women, up to and including the right to vote, so that he never again has to face the losses of control and wealth he has faced in the last 75 years of burgeoning rights of women in the west. ... And THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED IS TO SET UP A RELIGIOUS STATE IN THE USA BY DESTROYING ITS DEMOCRACY. And that is the attempt that is now being made. Trump, Mike Johnson, Alito, Clarence Thomas, Coney Barrett, Gorsuch, Roberts, Kavanaugh, and more than 50,000 GOP functionaries at all levels of government are decicated to the proposition that all people (especially women and people of color) are NOT equal, and that if you're white and male, the world belongs to you. Note the gerrymandering case decided this week by the Supreme Court. ... I think we are going to win this war for the soul of America, but it's going to be a bloody one that requires all our courage. ... And it is very, very terrifying. ... But the feminist revolution is still there. We must expose the core motivations of these people -- and we're going to have to deal with toxic masculinity, which is at the core and the #1 cause of every single social war, from Iran to the Internet, that we are fighting right now. Hakeem Jeffries is right: If Roe v. Wade can fall, democracy can fall. ... I loved Marilyn French's "The Women's Room" -- I owe that woman so much. Thanks, Rose.

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Jill Horner's avatar

Kabul was the main country to which I was inferring in my last post.

I loved a “The Women’s Room”

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Marva's avatar

Thank you. You said what I think, feel and believe, and you said it gery well. You give me hope and courage.

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Morgaan Sinclair, Ph.D.'s avatar

You give me hope, too. I'm fixin' to get in trouble. You comin'?

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Jill Horner's avatar

Well, are you……

😂

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Jill Horner's avatar

Good question!

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Tom Secor's avatar

[Butker backs his whole raft of bigotries with his religion—and, in fact, religion is the enforcing agency of patriarchy.]

Thanks for sharing this amazing piece, but when I read this (as an ex-evangelical) I was like — yes, yes, YES!

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Jill Horner's avatar

Of course. That was your training…..

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John Adams Ingram's avatar

8 June 2024

This NFL kicker’s rant attacking women is a manifestation of his alienation and self-hatred.

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Cindy Locke's avatar

I love him. He speaks for the Democratic ideals just like his friend, Tom Petty, did.

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